We’re on pilgrimage in Poland, walking where saints once walked. In this episode, Fr. Ian Hollick joins us on the road—from the mountains of Zakopane to the silence of Auschwitz—reflecting on the deep connection between suffering and beauty.

We hear about John Paul II’s childhood, his family’s quiet faith, and the early losses that shaped a future saint. We pray the Litany of Trust right from the tour bus. We talk indulgences, hope, and how God takes even the darkest notes and turns them into music.

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Pilgrimage in Poland Begins
1:00 – Walking with the Polish Saints
2:00 – Evil vs. Beauty in History
3:00 – John Paul II’s Domestic Seminary
4:00 – Brotherly Bond & Early Loss
5:00 – Tragedy Strikes the Wojtyła Family
6:00 – The Litany of Trust Begins
7:00 – Deliver Me, Jesus…
8:00 – Jesus, I Trust in You
9:00 – Why Pilgrimage Still Matters
10:00 – Hope, Indulgences, and Grace
11:30 – How God Uses Discord for Good