Only 30% of Catholics believe in the True Presence of the Eucharist. 

Only 24% of Catholics go to mass every Sunday. 

98% of Catholics use contraception. 

How many consider themselves pro-choice? How many support cohabitation? How many are regularly viewing porn? 

Sadly, this was our "normal" for Catholics before the pandemic. Maybe it's time we really reconsider whether we want to return to normal after all this is over. 

Fr. Meyer shares all these stats and more as he and Nathan dissect the issue of the pre-pandemic Catholic apathy and lukewarmness. This episode is a reflection of some sad realities of the past and a hopeful dream session for a brighter future. 

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