Holy Smokes. Not just an exclamation, but a perfect reaction to an episode where sports, surprises, and the sacred collide.
In this final 2024 episode of They That Hope, Deacon Bob shares the electric experience of standing in the tunnel as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers took the field, while Father Dave recounts something even more awe-inspiring: a private audience with Pope Francis in the Vatican. From the roar of NFL fans to the quiet reverence of the Pope’s library, the hosts explore the breadth of human experience, and the divine grace that fills it.
They also dive into sky-high sports salaries (looking at you, Juan Soto), the mission of Franciscan University, and the heart of Christmas: Emmanuel, God with us. And yes, there's movie talk, praying cards, and a plea not to sing at Wicked.
Highlighted Sections
(00:00) From the Buccaneers’ Tunnel to the Vatican Library
Deacon Bob opens the show with a thrilling story of standing in the tunnel as the Buccaneers entered the field, and spotting a rather jolly John Daly. Meanwhile, Father Dave prepares to one-up him with a different kind of entrance: into a private meeting with the Pope.
(04:44) Tunnel Trouble, Team Gear Drama, and Raiders Shade
Learn the strict tunnel rules at Raymond James Stadium, why someone got kicked out for wearing the wrong gear, and how Deacon Bob’s friend diplomatically supported both teams.
(07:30) MLB Contracts and the Cost of a Catechist
Juan Soto’s record-breaking $765M contract sparks a passionate discussion about financial disparities, the value of ministry, and how baseball salaries can make your theology degree feel...humbling.
(14:14) Father Dave Meets Pope Francis
The heart of the episode: Father Dave recounts his private audience with Pope Francis. From presenting the Oath of Fidelity to receiving a papal zucchetto, it's a once-in-a-lifetime moment filled with reverence, humor, and deep spiritual insight.
(20:50) A Theological Conference with a Twist
The hosts discuss the Vatican conference on theology and culture, the difference between experience-based and revelation-based catechesis, and why Franciscan’s academic presence matters.
(28:05) Christmas Movies, Wicked Warnings, and Red One Review
Deacon Bob gives a surprisingly heartfelt thumbs-up to Red One, starring The Rock and Chris Evans. Father Dave contemplates Wicked, but only if there's no sing-along.
(34:39) Emmanuel, God With Us
A moving conversation about the meaning of Emmanuel and Pope Francis’ summary of the kerygma: that Jesus not only died for us, but lives beside us daily—to strengthen, enlighten, and free.
(38:29) Final Blessing and Christmas Reflections
The hosts wrap the year with a reminder to slow down, take a breath, and remember what matters: God is with us. A final blessing for the season and prayers for all who listen.
Resources Mentioned
- Box of Joy – Help give a child in poverty their first Christmas gift.
- Catholic Praying Cards – A new scriptural way to pray the rosary.
- Franciscan University Online Degrees – Master’s programs in theology, catechetics, Catholic studies, criminal justice, and more.
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